Introducing the Dunsmuir separated bike lane
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A look at Vancouver's Dunsmuir Street two-way bike lane separating cyclists and motorists.
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Cycle tracks are not dangerous in and of themselves. It is the way it is designed. It is the same with any infrastructure. Build good cycle tracks, very safe and comfy. Build bad cycle tracks, very dangerous and stressful. The protected intersection and separated signals, like using a fully exclusive signal, or a leading bike phase, 7-10 seconds long, is good. Going Dutch is unfortunately now a moniker for something that seems great on paper and at first followed it*s principles, but turned out poorly. Unless you are of course, wait for it, the Dutch, in which case you actually follow good road design and have the lowest collision rate and the lowest cycle and pedestrian collision rate on the planet.
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It's a nice step, but I'd rather have better normal bike lanes around the city. We don't need a prettified short ass bike lane.
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I just love there are one or two cars happily cruising the empty streets in this animation. In reality, what have bikes lanes done for traffic congestion? Reduced or increased?
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Only issue really is the fucking cars making a right turn, yeah it says watch for cyclist but seems like nobody ever does.
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As opposed to changing lanes on a multi-lane road from the right-turn/through lane, to the left-turn lane. Unless there is a lot of traffic, I just go from the right-turn/through lane, to the left-turn lane. But I don't go on multi-lane roads on a regular basis.
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That is the proper way to turn left from a separated bike lane using a bike box. How do you turn left across 2 lanes of fast moving traffic from the right lane?
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That example of how to do a left(a right turn followed by a U-turn) is moronic.
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Kids are gonna skate on that and get hit by cars.
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we should have one in norwalk california :)
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@604commuter Funny! You weren't respecting the forum when you recently opened your new account, specifically to post numerous identical anti bike lane comments.That's spamming & trolling at the same time! Who do you work for?
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@604commuter You are ignoring the introduction, & therefore the whole context of the report. If junctions are dangerous separate here too, easy! As for your tax money, cycling facilities pay for themselves many times over by reducing congestion, massive health care costs associated with, respiratory disease, obesity & treatment of physical trauma associated with motorised transport. The Danish & Dutch systems of separation are the only ones that have led to a significant increase in cycling.
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@604commuter No, I used direct quotes from the authors, & this concession can be found in the introduction. I can see you haven't read it all, & are just a lobbyist (troll) pitching your biased point of view in support of the status quo.
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@604commuter Hang on a minute, you do realise that I was quoting from "Road safety & perceived risk of cycle tracks in Copenhagen" the report that YOU recommended here. Have you read it ??!! Are you now saying it's a biased study?
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@604commuter From the same report. "Many studies of cycle tracks have been undertaken in northern europe. A meta analysis of 11 studies show a reduction of 4% in crashes, & the crash reduction is almost the same for pedestrians, bicyclists & motorists respectively." & "The construction of bicycle tracks resulted in a 20% increase in bicycle mileage on those roads, where bicycle tracks have been constructed". In Denmark cycling has become a normal every day activity, made possible by segregation.
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@604commuter I would like to know the context of your sources. I know Copenhagen well, & i suspect that the report was recommending total separation at junctions too. This is almost an almost universal policy in Denmark. This policy of separation has led to the highest uptake of cycling in the world. The department of transport in Melbourne has on the other hand presided over a massive drop in cycling. The state of Victoria is not a cycle friendly place.
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I wonder why don't these guys go in Stanley park and ride the bike there . In China they tried but now everybody rides a car . I guess they finally figure out that cars are much faster then those bicycles.
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I and everyone I know enjoys the Dunsmuir BIke Lane. Great work!
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I hope this path prevents accidents, but It sounds like the concept and purpose was to make people FEEL safer riding along the street. I'm not sure it MAKES them safer. The cyclists are hidden and out of the sight line of drivers approaching intersections. I am afraid that this might lull people into a feeling of safety and actually make them more invisible to cars.
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Not to be too critical, but why do the folks in bike safety videos always have their helmet chinstraps on so loose? (I''m looking at you, Gregor Robertson, Mayor of Vancouver... 2:38 )
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@bikerusl ...with the "no left turn" rules but I doubt that will be enough of a solution. Really this is a great style of lane for long straight stretches like a bridge or highway. Something a lot more integrated that doesn't trap debris would be a lot better. That is the curb style lanes as seen in Amsterdam, Germany, and we have a few tiny stretches. Good on the city for taking this challenge on, it's hard to to but so important. Also the planter style idea is just wonderful, more friendly :-)
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