Junction design the Dutch - cycle friendly - way
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The Dutch build cycle paths right on their junctions. So they must have wider streets, right? Wrong! This video shows how it is done, no extra space needed. More info: http://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2011/04/07/state-of-the-art-bikeway-design-or-is-it/ And see part 2 of this video too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HDN9fUlqU8 A real example of this intersection design is shown in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TemAwgUrWJc
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i dont like it because the cycle is the only vehicule that needs to slow, imagine that in every intersection.
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Looking back on this video. I still feel the right hook is still a problem.
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Very beginning "This is a standard U.S. road." Then goes on to say "you can create an extra curb" and "without needing more space". Some very wrong logic here. Why? Because a standard U.S. road has more than just small cars driving on it. We have buses and long trucks with long trailers. Turning in such a place is difficult enough without a larger curb, nevermind adding a new lane for bicycles that extends said curb.
In this case, what was the point in using the "standard U.S. road" remark when it doesn't even apply to the example given? -
love the Werner Herzog accent!
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what is the width of the traffic island. and what is the distance between the island and the curb?
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That's amazing.
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2:16 not true... I hate Bike lanes, I wish they didn't exist. I like vehicular cycling since it as the most convenient, and safer, arguably. Because having to be offset from the motorist point of view is bad. This design has a solution to something that isn't a problem.
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I like the general concept of the design, but two questions still bother me:
1) Should this cycle paths be built on every street or every X number of streets?
2) Wouldn't having cycle paths in front of all buildings in a single street cause troubles with internal parking lots or garages of the buildings?
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Nice one, this might as well have been in Denmark! awesome!
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Whatever you do, don't remove this video! I keep showing it around and many Toronto cyclists and city planners are starting to understand it and are promoting it. I heard the latest objection to them, that the blind would encounter a traffic island and assume they reached the other side of the road. Then I rewatched the video and noticed the little orange triangles. You already thought of this and included the textured strips for the blind to be safe. Fantastic!
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Very good. Greetins from Spain.
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Gah! Indianapolis just installed one of those dangerous bike lane crossovers on busy New York Street and I hate it. Plus, many cars, if they don't see a bike in the bike lane, just ignore the crossover lane for bikes and drive straight through it. Not safe! Why couldn't they have done a wee bit of research first and built one of these instead?
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The part at :15 where cars can't see a cyclist because of the angle....the car typically sees me because they just passed me! These might be good for slow cyclists or really large intersections, but if the light is green these seem like a much worse idea because cars do not expect 20mph bikes to enter the crosswalk.
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I hate this. Bikes and cars in the same line= no problem
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To Michael & Andrew who responded to this post. This was not intended as a slam on cyclists in case it came off that way. I feel everyone has equal right to the roads. That being said, the insurance remark was in the event that a cyclist actually caused an accident. If you think about it there are many ways a cyclist could cause an accident. Pulling out in front of a vehicle, switching lanes abruptly without signaling, pulling out to avoid an animal or pedestrian. Believe me, I have seen many, many cyclists not follow the rules of the road and just do whatever the heck they want, like crossing against the light, riding in the middle of the lane, going way too fast, failing to stop, etc. Your thought (Michael) that a bicycle would not cause much damage to a vehicle was way, way down on the list. And Andrew, I understand your feeling about already paying for ins. and state fees for several vehicles. I, too, own more than one vehicle and it IS frustrating to pay for them all even though I can only drive one at a time. But that is a choice we make. If you owned, say a boat, you'd have to register that as well. The whole registration and plate thing is in place (partly) to give people that have been damaged a way to go after the person responsible, like hit and run, or getting forced off the road and into a ditch, or tree, or worse. Hopefully the damaged party can get a plate number so the wrong can be righted somehow.
Sorry if I ruffled some feathers. Was not my intention. Just pointing out that cyclist are given a free ride with no repercussion for CAUSING damage. -
Cyclists should be required to get insurance to operate on public roads. And they should have to register and get plates as well. If you are going to use the roads then you should help pay for the roads. If you want equal use of public thoroughfare, then you should have equal responsibility for safety and maintenance. No free ride....pun intended.
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well i won't hold my breath for this to happen in the US. it'd be easier trying to immigrate to the Netherlands!
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1:52 This design solves a further problem? More like: creates a new one. Cyclists belong on the road and shouldn't have to cross a road two times to make a left turn. Maybe this works in the Netherlands, but in my country, where this type of junction is being increasingly (and dare I say badly, or maybe incompletely) implemented, it does not.
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Приветствую, отличное видео. У меня на канале ролики такой же тематики, возможно для Вас будет интересно.
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Отличное решение!
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